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 Un avion de pasageri s-a prabusit la Tripoli

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Titlu: Un avion de pasageri s-a prabusit la Tripoli: 105 morti
Sursa: http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-ultima_ora-7262454-ultima-ora-avion-pasageri-prabusit-tripoli-105-morti.htm
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Data: 12.05.2010

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Un avion de pasageri s-a prabusit, miercuri dimineata, pe aeroportul din Tripoli, au anuntat oficiali libieni, citati de AFP. Aeronava, care plecase din Africa de Sud, avea la bord 105 persoane. Nu exista supravietuitori.

Potrivit televiziunii Al Arabiya, avionul apartinea unei companii aviatice din Libia.
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Mai multe amanunte aici.
Se pare ca a fost un A330 cu 94 de pasageri + crew.
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Probabil asa arata, cand era intreg.
Nu stiu daca aeronava prabusita este aceeasi cu cea din poza.

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Aia e, ca era singurul 330 din flota...
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RwO a scris:
Aia e, ca era singurul 330 din flota...

Conform airframes.org mai sunt alte doua:

5A-ONG si 5A-ONH

Interesant este faptul ca niciunul nu era mai vechi de un an.
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vic_atc a scris:
Conform airframes.org mai sunt alte doua:

5A-ONG si 5A-ONH

Gata, s-a aflat: este vorba de 5A-ONG.

Sursa: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20100512-0
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din cate am citit singurul supravietuitor ar fi un baiat de 10 ani
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VIC a scris:
din cate am citit singurul supravietuitor ar fi un baiat de 10 ani

Libertatea a scris:
Un copil de 8 ani a supravieţuit.

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http://www.airbuzz.ro/2010/05/a330-al-afrigiyah-airways-prabusit-la.html
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Titlu: Libyan Plane Crash Kills 103, Boy Survives
Sursa: http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1273666660.html
Autor: Reuters
Data: 12.05.2010

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A Libyan Airbus jet crashed early on Wednesday as it tried to land in Tripoli airport, killing 103 people on board, most of them Dutch, leaving a young Dutch boy the sole survivor, officials said.

The Airbus A330-200, which had only been in service since September, was flying from Johannesburg to the Libyan capital when it crashed just short of the runway around 6:00 am (0400 GMT), the airline and Airbus said.

Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said there were several dozen Dutch passengers on board the aircraft. Libyan officials said 22 of the victims were Libyans, but they gave no details of the other nationalities on board.

"Everybody is dead, except for one child," Libyan Transport Minister Mohamed Zidan told a news conference at Tripoli airport. The plane was carrying 93 passengers and 11 crew, Libyan officials and executives from the airline said.

The minister said investigators were working to establish the cause of the crash but he ruled out terrorism.

He told reporters the survivor was a 10-year-old Dutch child who did not have life-threatening injuries. "The child is in good condition and is in hospital undergoing checks," he said.

Pictures from the crash site showed the ground carpeted with small pieces of debris from the plane and passengers' personal effects, including a Dutch-language guide book to South Africa.

Only the tail fin, decorated with state-owned Afriqiyah Airways' red, green and yellow insignia, was more or less intact, standing upright but leaning at an angle.

Ambulances were ferrying bodies of the victims to hospital mortuaries. Libyan officials said they had recovered dozens of bodies.

BLACK BOXES RECOVERED

A spokesman for Dutch Motorists' Association ANWB, which has an emergency assistance service for Dutch people abroad, said that 61 Dutch nationals were killed in the crash.

Saleh Ali Saleh, head of the airline's legal department, said that the plane's black boxes had been recovered from the crash site in Tripoli and an investigation was underway.

"The deaths were probably due to the impact as I did not hear any report of a fire. The plane was travelling fast as it was still short of the runway when it crashed," Saleh said.

Planemaker Airbus issued a statement confirming it had manufactured the plane involved in the crash. "Airbus will provide full technical assistance to the authorities responsible for the investigation into the accident," it said.

The crashed aircraft was delivered from the production line in September 2009 and had accumulated approximately 1,600 flight hours in some 420 flights, Airbus added.

The aircraft is the same type as Air France flight 447, which crashed in the Atlantic on June 1 last year. The cause of that crash has not been firmly identified.

Afriqiyah Airways executives said the crash was the first in the history of the airline, which was established in 2001.

Airline staff said they had no more details about passengers' nationalities.

"We extend our deepest sympathy to the families and friends of the victims," a statement from the airline said.
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Un avion de pasageri s-a prabusit la Tripoli Empty
MesajSubiect: Re: Un avion de pasageri s-a prabusit la Tripoli   Un avion de pasageri s-a prabusit la Tripoli EmptyVin 14 Mai 2010, 09:36

Se pare ca pilotii au cerut ambulante si (asta nu stiu daca sa o cred) un pasager a dat un tweet din avion de pe mobil ca au probleme la o aripa

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/12/libya-air-crash-the-europe-connection/?test=latestnews

Alta discutie e aici:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4809495/

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according to Afriqiyah employee who wishes to remain anonymous, Tripoli ATC always lets aircraft land on rwy 09 in the morning even if there is no wind. The reason for this is that aircraft landing on rwy 27 approach from the East, which obliges ATC to look into the sun, which they find unpleasant. [..]

Amongst Afriqiyah staff there has been discontent about this state of affairs for some time already. Not because it's now the pilots having to look into the sun, but since rwy 09 is fitted with the much older NDB (as opposed to ILS-equipped rwy 27). "rwy 09 is terrible, even compared to the rest of Africa", the Afriqiyah employee says.

[..] landing at 09 was made harder by low-hanging clouds. A pilot who landed on the same rwy a few minutes earlier was said to have warned his colleague on the ill-fated plane about this. Allegedly he even recommended him to request rwy 27 instead. The tower then merely answered "stand by". "They always do that. It means that you have to wait an eternity".

A KL pilot then is quoted as saying that he actually considers TIP ATC reliable and never had problems "well you can't fly a precision approach, but that in itself doesn't mean it is unsafe".

[...]

The captain of the plane, Yousif Al Ssady (1953), had an excellent reputation. "Everybody wanted to fly with him", an employee says. He had his training at the British Oxford Aviation Academy, who issued a press release yesterday in which it confirmed to have "a training relationship" with Afriqiyah.
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Titlu : Investigators To Scour Site Of Libya Plane Crash
Sursa : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1273755085.html
Autor : Reuters
Data : 13.05.2010


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Aviation experts arrived in Tripoli on Thursday to scour the scattered remains of an Airbus jet that crashed in the Libyan capital and killed all but one of the 104 people on board.

The sole survivor of Afriqiyah Airways Flight 8U771 was a 9-year-old Dutch boy returning from a safari holiday with his family in South Africa, a Dutch newspaper reported on Thursday.

The Airbus A330-200 flying from Johannesburg was preparing to land in Tripoli when it crashed short of the runway early on Wednesday. Libya's transport minister has ruled out terrorism as the cause.

A technical team from Airbus and Dutch investigators were taking part in the probe and would examine the black boxes recovered from the wreckage.

"The Airbus team has arrived in Tripoli to begin their investigation," Omrane al-Zabadi, head of media at Afriqiyah Airways said.

Aviation experts said the almost brand new Airbus appeared to have hit the ground several hundred metres short of the runway in visibility of 5 to 6 km (3-4 miles).

They said the airport approach lacked systems to provide crew with the aircraft's distance and height from the runway, although it was too early to say why it hit the ground and disintegrated, leaving only the tail fin intact.

"Statistically the accident rate for these non-precision approaches is higher than for precision approaches. But we don't know if that is significant in this case at all," said Paul Hayes, director of safety at Ascend in London.

"The total destruction of the aircraft in a (runway) undershoot is unusual."

ILL-FATED SAFARI

There had been uncertainty since the crash about the young survivor's identity but the Dutch Foreign Affairs Ministry said on Thursday he was a boy named Ruben from the southern Dutch city of Tilburg.

"An employee from the Dutch embassy in Tripoli talked to him. He told them his name is Ruben and is 9-years-old and from Tilburg. He is doing reasonably well considering the circumstances," the Dutch ministry said in a statement.

The boy had suffered leg fractures but was in a stable condition, doctors at a Tripoli hospital said on Wednesday.

A woman said to be the boy's grandmother told Dutch paper Brabants Dagblad that he was travelling with his 11-year-old brother Enzo and parents Trudy and Patrick van Assouw and had been on a safari in South Africa.

The Foreign Ministry said an aunt and uncle had landed in Tripoli and would quickly visit the boy at the hospital. The plane also carried six Dutch officials, including specialists to identify people or investigate plane crashes.

Afriqiyah Airways late on Wednesday adjusted the number of nationalities of the dead, saying 58 Dutch, 6 South Africans, 2 Libyans, 2 Austrians, 1 German, 1 Zimbabwean, 1 French, and 2 British nationals were on board.

The plane also carried 11 crew members, all Libyan, and 19 people whose nationality still needed to be confirmed, Afriqiyah said.

Zabadi said relatives of the dead would arrive on Thursday to try to identify the bodies.

The aircraft is the same type as Air France flight 447, which crashed in the Atlantic on June 1 last year. The cause of that crash has not been firmly identified.

Tripoli-based Afriqiyah Airways, backed by the Libyan government, has been in operation since 2001 and has been flying 10 Airbus jets with an average age of five years.
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Titlu : Libya Plane Crash Black Boxes Flown To France
Sursa : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1274402267.html
Autor : Reuters
Data : 21.05.2010

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A Libyan investigator on Thursday flew to France with the black box flight recorders from a wrecked Airbus plane to try to establish why it crashed killing 103 people, officials said.

The sole survivor from the May 12 crash was a 9-year-old Dutch boy who was returning with his family from a safari holiday in South Africa.

There has so far been no indication of what caused the Afriqiyah Airways Airbus A330-200, which had only been in service since September, to crash into the ground as it came in to land at Tripoli airport after a flight from Johannesburg.

Abdul Rahman Alabbar, Libya's Attorney-General who is supervising the investigation, said 85 percent of the debris from the aircraft had so far been recovered and examined.

He said that Naji Dhaw, head of a commission of investigation, was taking the two black boxes to France where specialists would "examine its components which will help reveal the circumstances of the incident."

Dhaw said he expected that there would be a statement next week on the results of work being conducted by the commission of investigation.

The Dutch boy who survived the crash, Ruben Van Assouw, suffered bone fractures. He flew home last week on board a Libyan ambulance plane, accompanied by his aunt and uncle who had flown to Tripoli to bring him home.

The Dutch government said a total of 70 Dutch citizens died in the crash. Afriqiyah Airways, which has its headquarters in Tripoli, said the dead also included nationals from Libya, South Africa, Austria, Germany, Zimbabwe, France and Britain.
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Titlu : No Technical Fault In Libya Jet Crash - Investigators
Sursa : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1275261783.html
Autor : Reuters
Data : 30/05/2010

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Investigators have so far found no evidence that mechanical failure caused an Airbus aircraft to crash in Libya this month killing 103 people, a Libyan commission studying the crash said.

The Airbus A330 operated by Libya's Afriqiyah Airways crashed on May 12 as it prepared to land at Tripoli airport after a flight from Johannesburg, killing everyone on board except a nine-year-old Dutch boy.

"There is no sign indicating a technical failure in the plane before the incident, according to data recovered up until now from the two black boxes," commission chief Naji Dhaw said in a statement setting out investigators' preliminary conclusions.

Dhaw said the investigation was continuing into why the almost new aircraft crashed, and it could be some time before his commission was ready to present its final conclusions.

The commission of investigation also ruled out an explosion or fire on board the plane before the crash and said there was no evidence it was caused by an act of terrorism.

NO MAY-DAY CALL

The commission also said there was no evidence a lack of fuel was a factor, and that there was nothing to indicate that the pilot had radioed the control tower before the crash to request technical or medical assistance.

The statement added: "The crew was qualified to work on this type of aircraft. It had operated more than one flight on this route and authorisations for the crew were valid."

The Airbus A330 had been in service for only eight months when it crashed, and it had passed three routine inspections by European aviation safety agencies.

The victims included 70 Dutch citizens. Nationals from Libya, South Africa, Britain, Austria, Germany, Zimbabwe and France were also killed, the airline said.

The only survivor was nine-year-old Ruben von Assouw, from the southern Dutch city of Tilburg, who was returning from a safari holiday in South Africa with his family.

He was treated in a Tripoli hospital for bone fractures, and was then flown home in an air ambulance after being told that his parents and 11-year-old brother had died in the crash.
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