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 Avion prabusit la Buffalo, NY - USA

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MesajSubiect: blade   Avion prabusit la Buffalo, NY - USA - Pagina 2 EmptyMar 17 Feb 2009, 20:01

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Ce-s alea blade? Cumva palele elicei?
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babacu a scris:
Ce-s alea blade? Cumva palele elicei? Nu cred că au fost probleme la elice/elicii. O elice defectă dă vibraţii. Dă
"overtorque" sau "overspeed" la motor. N-au avut vibraţii. N-au avut "overspeed condition", NTSB au decodat cutia neagră.

Cît despre avioanele de la SAS acolo e altă mîncare de peşte: s-a descoperit că acele avioane implicate în accident au fost prost întreţinute de echipa lor tehnică. Trebuiau să implementeze un buletin de service pentru a îmbunătăţi funcţionarea trenului principal. Mecanicii lor nu l-au aplicat corect. Au fost găsite piese instalate incorect! Care în timp f.f. scurt au cedat.

Nici nu ma mira. Horizon Air, Porter Airlines are aceliasi avioane, DASH 8 400Q, si nu au avut probleme de genul asta. Tot ce au reusit sa faca SAS e sa alarmeze publicul si sa-i faca "de rusine" pe Canadieni, care fac avioane foarte bune si au traditie.
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MesajSubiect: citeva_date   Avion prabusit la Buffalo, NY - USA - Pagina 2 EmptyJoi 19 Feb 2009, 15:35

Pentru cei inca interesati de subiect:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/02/15/322581/ntsb-colgan-3407-pitched-up-despite-anti-stall-push.html

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/580554.html

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The crew turned on the aircraft’s automatic de-icing system shortly after departure from Newark.
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Colgan Air Q400 ... pitched 31 degrees nose-up after stick shaker and stick pusher systems activated at the start of the instrument approach.
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data shows that the stick shaker and stick pusher activated roughly 34 seconds after the landing gear was deployed and as the wing flaps transitioned between 5 and 10 degrees down. The pilots had commanded the flaps to the 15 degree down position.
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aircraft had been flying in autopilot mode until the stick shaker activated, an action that automatically disengaged the system.
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Following the initial pitch upset to 31 degrees nose up, ... the aircraft experienced a nose-down pitch of 45 degrees with a roll to the left of 46 degrees. The Q400 then rolled right to 105 degrees. Engine power was increased to full-power about 6 seconds after the upset. The pilots had commanded the flaps and landing gear to retract after the upset.
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He also said that autopilot was engaged at some point into the flight, and it remained on until 26 seconds before the crew lost contact with air traffic controllers.
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When the plane crashed, landed, autopilot was not engaged, he said.
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When autopilot engaged, the airplane's system was attempting to push the nose of the plane down.
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At some point, the crew then disengaged the autopilot, he said.
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While the NTSB has recommended that pilots hand flying their aircraft in icing conditions to get a better sense for trim changes, ... US Federal Aviation Administration has not mandated the practice, in part due considerations over pilot workload in such conditions without the use of autopilot.
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Bombardier, the manufacturer of the Q400, recommends hand flying only if icing conditions are severe.
“From what we’ve seen so far, we haven’t determined there was severe icing,”
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A “reference speed increase” switch that increases by 20kt the speed at which the stall warning system activates had been set to the ON position by the pilots as called for in icing conditions, says Chealander.
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Investigators are still in the process of determining what the aircraft’s stall speed would have been for its weight and configuration
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Chealander says the G-forces during the final minute of the flight ranged from 0.75G to 2G.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/nyregion/19crash.html?_r=1
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atr_42_500 a scris:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/nyregion/19crash.html?_r=1

Foarte interesant, multumim!
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SURSA FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM
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MesajSubiect: ancheta   Avion prabusit la Buffalo, NY - USA - Pagina 2 EmptyMar 12 Mai 2009, 10:04

Pentru cine este interesat cum decurge ancheta:

Titlu:Flight 3407 crew violated 'sterile cockpit' rules; pilot had failed flight tests
Sursa: http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/667926.html
Autor: Jerry Zremski
Data: 11.05.2009

Articolul merita citit integral.
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