Malaysian plane disappeared off Vietnam coast

Titlu: Malaysian plane crashed off Vietnam coast:
Sursa: http://my.news.yahoo.com/malaysian-plane-crashed-off-vietnam-coast-state-media-060229352--finance.html
Autor: Reuters
Data: 8.03.2014

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A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew crashed into the sea 153 miles off the coast of Vietnam's Tho Chu island on Saturday, according to a Vietnamese navy officer quoted by state media.

"At the moment there are no Vietnamese navy boats in that area so we have to ask boats from Phu Quoc island to be prepared for rescue," Admiral Ngo Van Phat told the website of Tuoi Tre news.

Tho Chu and Phu Quoc lie to the southwest of southern Vietnam.

The admiral could not be reached by telephone. It was not immediately clear how he knew where the plane had crashed or whether wreckage had been spotted.

The plane last had contact with air traffic controllers 120 nautical miles off the east coast of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu, the airline said.

Alt link : http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html


Este vorba de un avion al Malaysia Airlines, cursa MH370 de la Kuala Lumpur la Beijing operat cu un B777-200.

239 pasageri si echipaj.

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Passengers were from:
1.    China - 152 plus 1 infant
2.    Malaysia - 38
3.    Indonesia - 12
4.    Australia - 7
5.    France - 3
6.    United States of America - 3 plus 1 infant
7.    New Zealand - 2
8.    Ukraine - 2
9.    Canada - 2
10.  Russia - 1
11.  Italy - 1
12.  Taiwan - 1
13.  Netherlands - 1
14.  Austria - 1

Nasol....cu Malaysia Airlines B777-200 am zburat acum 2 ani IST-KUL si KUL-IST, insa nu am nr. de inmatriculare de la niciunul...interiorul parea mai obosit. Cine stie ce o fi fost....de aia zic mereu: conteaza sa ajung cu bine, potolul, serviciile, etc. nu mai conteaza.

Din ce am inteles, se pare ca doi dintre pasagerii de pe lista de imbarcare, un cetatean austriac si unul italian, sunt bine mersi acasa si nu au avut nici o treaba cu acel zbor, amandoi declarand, independent unul de celalalt, ca le-au fost furate pasapoartele in urma cu ceva vreme.

Vreo posibila cauza a tragediei?

Avionul prabusit e 9M-MRO ... (B777)  cel mai mare si mai sigur bimotor din lume ... trist

A inceput sa se discute despre un posibil act terorist.

Cu toate megafiltrele si senzorii din lume sa se fi trecut cu material exploziv. Hm, imi vine greu sa cred ca doar doi flacai cu pasapoarte false sa treaca cu genti tixite de explozibil fara ca sa aibe pe cineva pe dinauntru undeva. Abia astept sa vad cauzele.

Pe de alta parte acumulatorii Li-Ion sint considerati materiale periculoase. A fost cel putin o situatie cand acumulatori de genul asta au luat foc. Nu mai am linkul catre articol.

Pe langa faptul ca 2 oameni au imbarcat cu pasapoarte false, se pare ca radare militare si civile spun ca ar fi o posibilitate ca avionul in cauza sa fi deviat de la traiectoria initiala intorcandu-se din drum.

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Ah, the game's a foot.

Doar ce l-am vazut live la CNN la Quest in emisiune, pe unul din fondatorii FlightRadar24.com si care nu intelege de ce s-au extis cautarile si in Stramtoarea Malacca.
"Ar trebui la NE de Malaysia in Golful Thailandei/Marea Chinei de Sud, si nu in V-NV in Stramtoarea Malacca/Marea Andaman."


Imaginea completa la NYTimes


Pe FB:

https://www.facebook.com/flightradar24 a scris:

Here is a #MH370 situation update from Flightradar24 because of the many questions we get.

The ADS-B transponder of an aircraft is transmitting data twice per second. FR24 saves data every 10-60 second depending on altitude. On cruising altitude data is normally saved once per 60 seconds. By analyzing all our databases and logs we have managed to recover about 2 signals per minute for the last 10 minutes.

The last location tracked by Flightradar24 is
Time UTC: 17:21:03
Lat: 6.97
Lon: 103.63
Alt: 35000
Speed: 471 knots
Heading: 40

Between 17:19 and 17:20 the aircraft was changing heading from 25 to 40 degrees, which is probably completely according to flight plan as MH370 on both 4 March and 8 March did the same at the same position. Last 2 signals are both showing that the aircraft is heading in direction 40 degrees.

Today there are reports in media that MH370 may have turned around. FR24 have not tracked this. This could have happened if the aircraft suddenly lost altitude as FR24 coverage in that area is limited to about 30000 feet.

FR24 have not tracked any emergency squawk alerts for flight MH370 before we lost coverage of the aircraft. Playback for flight MH370 is available on
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh370#2d81a27

valavia a scris:

Din ce am inteles, se pare ca doi dintre pasagerii de pe lista de imbarcare, un cetatean austriac si unul italian, sunt bine mersi acasa si nu au avut nici o treaba cu acel zbor, amandoi declarand, independent unul de celalalt, ca le-au fost furate pasapoartele in urma cu ceva vreme.

Si biletele au fost cumparate cu cash in ultima clipa de un cetatean iranian...
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Si tot ce s-a crezut pana acuma s-a dovedit a nu fi asa, cica dira de combustibil gasita pe apa nu provine de la avion, ci de la un vapor. Si acea usa care se credea ca e usa, e cu totul altceva. Sunt tare curios unde se va ajunge cu investigatiile...

Dar pe asta o stiati? Telefoanele pasagerilor disparuti inca mai sunt in functiune.

http://brasovultau.ro/articol/stiri/misterul-avionului-disparut-telefoanele-pasagerilor-inca-suna.html

mihaiatanasie a scris:

Dar pe asta o stiati? Telefoanele pasagerilor disparuti inca mai sunt in functiune.

http://brasovultau.ro/articol/stiri/misterul-avionului-disparut-telefoanele-pasagerilor-inca-suna.html

Eu am patit sa fiu sunat si sa mi se reproseze ca nu raspund la telefon...... ca sunt sunat, imi suna telefonul si eu nu raspund si toate astea in timp ce telefonul meu era pus atat de bine incat semnalul era lipsa la apel! Anomalia asta apare probabil cand reteaua nu sesizeaza ca respectivul terminal nu mai comunica cu ea! Nu va mai luati dupa raspandacii de Romania ca numai prostii spun, prin ceva ziar scria ca armata Malaesyana a gasit epava in conditiile in care armata asta a declarat ca a gasit avionul pe inregistrarile radar......

Deci de asta se cauta in Stramtoarea Malacca...

CNN a scris:

The Malaysian Air Force has traced the last known location of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 to a spot above Pulau Perak, a very small island in the Straits of Malacca and hundreds of miles from the usual Kuala Lumpur to Beijing flight path, according to a senior Malaysian Air Force official. The official declined to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media.
If the Malaysian Air Force data cited by the source is correct, the aircraft was flying the opposite direction from its scheduled destination and on the opposite side of the Malay Peninsula from its scheduled route.
Previous accounts had the aircraft losing touch with air traffic control near the coast of Vietnam.

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Cineva pe a.net a postat asta:

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My rough calculations are that by the time they were over Pulau Perak Island they had traveled roughly 600 miles. Doesnt this leave roughly 2000 miles remaining (plus) based on a 2700 mile planned flight? If they were at 29000 ft they could have continued for a long way...

Here is a link to a web map that displays a 2000 radius....http://sandbox.maps.arcgis.com/apps/OnePane/basicviewer/index.html?appid=95cbede59b3e471eb14b52c362966934

Plecand de la presupunerea ca ar fi avut combustibil strict pentru cursa de Beijing care este de 2700 mile!

MRares a scris:

Plecand de la presupunerea ca ar fi avut combustibil strict pentru cursa de Beijing care este de 2700 mile!

Deobicei cam asa se ia, doar minimul necesar de combusitibil.

Griff a scris:

MRares a scris:

Plecand de la presupunerea ca ar fi avut combustibil strict pentru cursa de Beijing care este de 2700 mile!

Deobicei cam asa se ia, doar minimul necesar de combusitibil.

Daca toata tarasenia a fost regizata de echipaj sau daca costurile sunt mai mici in KUL decat la Beijing atunci se poate incarca mai mult pentru a reduce costurile cu alimentatul......

Vad bine chinezii?

CNN a scris:

A Chinese satellite looking into the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 "observed a suspected crash area at sea," a Chinese government agency said -- a potentially pivotal lead into what has been a frustrating search for the Boeing 777.
China's State Administration for Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense announced the discovery, including images of what it said were "three suspected floating objects and their sizes." The objects aren't small at 13 by 18 meters (43 by 59 feet), 14 by 19 meters and 24 by 22 meters.

The images were captured on March 9 -- which was the day after the plane went missing -- but weren't released until Wednesday.

The Chinese agency gave coordinates of 105.63 east longitude, 6.7 north latitude, which would put it in waters northeast of where it took off in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and south of Vietnam

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Nu au vazut bine...... au cercetat zona vietnamezii si nu au gasit nimic......

Avionul nu s-a prabusit langa Vietnam asa cum s-a crezut. Se pare ca a fost deviat de la ruta de cineva familiar cu pilotajul. Nu se stie daca pilotii sau niste presupusi hijackeri.
ACARS si transponderul au fost inchise intetionat ptr a nu putea fi localizati.
Avionul a urmat un culoar de zbor conventional, atingand mai multe puncte de navigatie "waypoints" pe ruta respectiva.

De aia, americanii au trimis catre Andaman si Nicobar navele lor de recunoastere. E uimitoare toate povestea. Ma intreb daca, printr-un concurs de imprejurari, oamenii aia sau o parte dintre ei ar putea fi inca in viata.

Intrebare de baraj, alaltaieri era vorba ca a mai zburat 4 ore dupa pierderea contactului, ieri cele 4 au devenit 5 si astazi 7 ...... Chiar daca transponderul nu emite avionul este vazut de radarul primar si de aici rezulta intrebarea mea: dat fiind faptul ca, cel putin teoretic, a trecut prin zone puternic militarizate (India de exemplu) cum se face ca a fost invizibil sau ii ceva model nou de 777...... Cum se face ca nu l-a vazut nici macar o tara pe radar in conditiile in care a zburat pe ruta respectand punctele de navigatie? Ca doar nu a fost ca la Hollypadure si a zburat sub sau deasupra altui avion!!!!

Se poate zbura sub radar la o joasa altitudine. Fara transponder, un radar detecteaza avionul insa nu stie ce avion e, la ce altitudine, viteza etc. Si ei au zburat multa vreme in zone neacoperite de radar. Nu avea cine sa-i ia la intrebari. Ei acum au luat la puricat toate datele inregistrate in zona respectiva si in intervalul ala de timp si asa au putut determina pe unde a trecut avionul.
India are o armata de mana a treia, si are concentrata armata si tehnica militara la granita cu pakistan, kashmir, china. Pana la urma, un satelit al britanicilor a detectat avionul si a deslusit enigma incotro a luat-o avionul. Informatiile au fost coroborate cu ce avea armata malaeziana de pe raderelor lor militare si asa au ajuns la concluziile actuale.

Ironia este ca in era tehnologiei, a satelitilor, a comunicatiilor, astia nu pot gasi avionul asta. Aveam pe avioane sistemul ACARS, o minune a tehnicii, insa nu avem un gps tracking sistem. Poate ca dupa episodul asta o sa introduca astia si asa ceva. Mereu invatam din greseli.

Cursa Malaysia Airlines a disparut in TRIUNGHIUL DIAVOLULUI ?
Triunghiul Diavolului ar fi fratele din Pacific al Triunghiului Bermudelor din Atlantic, pe aceeasi latitudine si aproximativ diametral opus.

Astea cu triunghiurile mie personal mi se par abureli, aburite, fumate si rasfumate.... prin infamul triunghi al bermudelor trec zeci si sute de avioane zilnic si nu dispare nicci unu, trec zeci sute de nave maritime si nu dispare niciuna......

Asta ii o traducere aproximativa a ultimului mesaj al pilotului Zaharie.....:

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right terror anwar ne. !

Politics of fear.. This is what it’s boiled down to… Questioning the qualification of the individuals who dare to standup. (Anuar or Hadi .) These are our only hope to restore democracy. 50 years in power by a single party (coalition) does not say much about democracy in the country. If these leaders willing to stand in the line of fire the least we could do is support them. They might not be perceived to be the best candidate but sacrifice is necessary to achieve the goal of free democracy. When you renovate a house you have to suffer all the consequences. From dust, to the contractor that run off with the money, Aliens workers keeping an eyes on your family. WHY DO YOU RISK THAT? Because at the end after all the loss of extra ringgit for overprice items the contractor billed you and you elude the alien predators from robbing your house and harming your family you know it will be worthwhile.

Asalamualaikum
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Traducerea a fost facuta de cineva pe forum la erlainershi!

MRares a scris:

Astea cu triunghiurile mie personal mi se par abureli, aburite, fumate si rasfumate.... prin infamul triunghi al bermudelor trec zeci si sute de avioane zilnic si nu dispare nicci unu, trec zeci sute de nave maritime si nu dispare niciuna......

Putin probabil sa fie opera triungiului...insa nu vazusem documentarul cu pricina.
In aceasta dupa-amiaza: Missing Malaysia Airlines plane 'deliberately diverted'